i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.
in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.
of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.
I think about the 10 commandments. The law said "thou shalt not kill."
But that only applied to the killing of your own people (hence the whole cities of refuge arrangement) it didn't mean not to kill in general. Because the Israelites waged war against all the inhabitants of the land. Committing some dreadful atrocities if the accounts are accurate.
So surely if the circumstances call for it warfare is acceptable today?
so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
If we'd only known that there would be a further in gathering of the anointed ones in the 1980s we could have all jumped on the bandwagon and be living in the luxurious hotel / retirement retreat that the new GB have created for themselves.
But having learned TTATT late in life our health has already been shattered both physically and mentally. It's enough to make us cry.
it seemed like the society taught that somehow everyone and everything pictured the anointed class.
is that still the case?
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We had an older elder who used to say from the platform that the Bible was not for the other sheep. The Hebrew scriptures were written for the nation of Israel only, and the Christian Greek scriptures were written for those who were of the heavenly hope.
The other sheep class could see the principles but without the anointed class would still be wandering in the darkness of Christendom!!
i remember around 2005, there was an announcement made from the platform that in a few weeks time we would have to remain at the end of the sunday meeting for a big announcement, directly from the society.. i remember all the murmuring, people thought maybe this was going to be related to armageddon.
everyone was excited, people were speculating.
only the po in each congregation had any idea what was going on, and they were frequently pestered for information, but sworn to secrecy, which only hyped things up even more.. then the meeting came, anticipation was in the air, the announcement started, you could hear a pin drop.
99.9% of the earth's population, "special" means "extraordinary; exciting; beyond expectations".
Not necessarily. Special at school referred to those who needed extra help with learning. And "special needs" at the conventions mean the disabled, sick, and infirm.
Maybe a WT "special announcement" falls into these categories as well.
2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
Re: Publishers.
Don't forget that the elderly and disabled have the provision to count their field service in 15 minute increments.
An older JW might only report 15 minutes informal witnessing a month for 12 months adding up to 3 hours in a year.
But because of the fact that they turn in a report they will be counted as an regular and active witness.
my (very fake) name is gabriel syme or gabe for short.
i have been lurking in the shadows for many years and i want to give all here a heartfelt thank you for all your indirect support.
this website, as well as youtube, and eventually reddit, were all key in me finally accepting the “truth” being not that at all.
Welcome "Gabe for short"
I too have browsed here for a while, grazing on the real food on this table.
And only recently came out of the shadows into the light.
Hope you will get as much comfort here as me.
as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .
merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .
why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .
@redpilltwice
Someone told us about an elder who used to say in his talks that Santa was Satan backwards and the little children in the hall would snigger and say loudly that old man can't spell.
as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .
merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .
why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .
They asked me to dress up as Santa and hand out gifts to the customers but I told them that there's no clause in my contract.
as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .
merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .
why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .
Someone complained about me when I asked them what they were doing over the Xmas holidays.
"Christmas! Pagan! Can't use that word."
So I said why do you use the days of the week since they are all named after pagan deities?
Hypocrisy gets me annoyed.
i am absolutely dumbstruck and lost for words.
one of the elders who criticised me over my use of social media rang me up to ask how i was doing.
after the usual blah-blah-blah i asked him if he had attended the recent elders one day school.
I am absolutely dumbstruck and lost for words.
One of the elders who criticised me over my use of social media rang me up to ask how I was doing.
After the usual blah-blah-blah I asked him if he had attended the recent elders one day school. He said that he had, and how marvellous it had been. Then he said, wait for it.
"Elders these days are so warm and inviting. We are not spiritual policemen looking into everything the publishers are doing. "
I almost choked myself to death holding my breath not saying anything incriminating in reply. Delusional for certain.
Sorry but I just had to share with someone.
